"It's like going to see Gerry & The Pacemakers, or Marty Wilde at The Grand. How can you ever bear to see these people you used to adore in your youth? And it's the same with photography. This stuff is just shite. But that's the risk you're taking here. You don't want to be associated with me."
Andrew is the rare interviewee who will ask to go off the record so that he can say some people are "the nicest people in the entire world, they give me faith."
While surgery and rehabilitation had restored his shoulder, Stevie had developed another serious problem; a loss of identity and self-worth as he faced up to being a rugby league player who couldn't play rugby league.
Rav sounds wistful, as any sports mad Leeds lad might, who played football for Leeds United's youth teams when Leeds United were a club in the semi-finals of the Champions League, who eventually had to let that dream go.
The vase on the table by which we sit, Tim says, dates from 2200BC, and we think of every vase we've ever seen toppled by a placid cat's paw, and wonder how life here, with a placid cat named Otti prowling the rooms, can possibly be real.
"I call myself a business coach," says Auriel, as if she would rather just call herself Auriel. "I think there is a lot of rubbish talked about coaching both within the coaching world and outside it, and lots of claims made for it that may or may not be true."
"The letter came to my flatmate who showed it to me, and I took it down to the shop and said, 'I'm not who you were expecting, and I'm not a woman, but would you give me an interview?' And that's what changed my life."
"My dad and I, we lived the game. It wasn't his job, it was his passion. I would ask him, 'Why aren't you playing him, he's such a good player?' He'd say, 'Yes, but he doesn't play well with someone else.' And then I would try to see things in this different way."
"I think you need somewhere that you feel like you can get lost in, that you wouldn't bring your mum and dad to, that you wouldn't dream of consuming food in. You need somewhere like that in order to be transported."
"With a lot of contemporary art, it's presented to us that people know what it's about, and then they tell us, and we go and have a look at it. It's not always that cut and dried."